follow the hype?

tossit · 08-09-2004, 11:21 AM

I just read this press-release from Dave Clark on livesets.com

Quote:

The Move from Vinyl to CD

"After some time (I wanted to move to CD in 1997) I have finally got a machine that I believe is sonically and technically up to the job of replacing the hallowed and much loved 1210. I was originally asked to demo the Technics CD deck in New York at the beginning of the year but I didn't have the space in my calendar, however after finally getting my hands on one I have concluded that I will now switch over to CD's in the short term, this will take some time and allow me to road test the machine in clubs. Initially I will bring my own, but would appreciate any promoters that read this and have budget to either hire or buy, to supply 2-3 of them, eventually my technical rider will change and any one with questions can send either an email to my office or speak to my road manager direct. Please note that Pioneer/Denon or other makes of CD decks will not be used, furthermore technical 1210's will still be needed.

I know some of you flat earthers will be upset, but whilst I love vinyl it's time has been written on the wall for ages and I felt that Final Scratch and Albeton live wasn't for me in terms of interface and sound quality (although some djs have their own valid and difference opinions). In my mind at the moment the pro's outweigh the cons, it will speed up the both mine and other producers music to clubs (being cheaper for smaller labels/artists), the bass frequencies will be fatter and stereo (in non bridged systems), the flexibility in mixing techniques not available to vinyl (and some computer systems ) are exciting, and it uses a standard that is already tried and tested. The only cons that I can think of are slower load up time than vinyl and inability of titling each CD with vdu outlet to a central LCD. I believe these are not unsurmountable problems.

I must also say that this is an entirely professional decision, I am not sponsored by this company.

Finally............
Notice to promo/record companies and artists:
Please from now on can you send both vinyl and CD of all singles/albums that you feel suit the material that I play out e.g.: Novamute, Ruskin, inigo Kennedy, Victim, end2end, twilight, 76, turbo, Birmingham Boys, DiskoB, Gigolo, electrix etc. etc. etc. Can all CD's please be labelled clearly as cdr's without writing/print can easily be lost, also please don't forget to finalize, and if it has been professionally mastered please label "production copy". Only 16bit 44.1 will be played, mp3 will be ignored. Finally, if you can afford to, than please send any back cat on CD if you know I have been a fan!

Many many thanks
Dave Clarke"

I think it's pretty annoying for a club or promotor to get every few months the most expensive tools (and than three times if you please), just because some big shot dj doesn't want to play records anymore and wants to have a very specific type of player. The next one wants three denon, some pioneer and oh yes, make it the latest model with the nice lights and dvd-capability.
Did I mention mixer yet? Some require Allen & Heath, some Pioneer, some Rodec etc...

Where does this lead to? Why can't he just bring them along himself if he must have them just as every VJ or live-act does with their equipment?

yoko · 08-11-2004, 09:28 AM

That's a good question...I think it's part of the job as a DJ to be able to adjust to various players and mixers. OK if there is just a crappy beltdrive turntable then it sucks, but you still have to live with it. Unless, as you already said, you bring along your own stuff

wildbunch · 08-11-2004, 10:16 AM

I wonder what impact this will have on the vinyl vs cd discussion. Lots of "newbie"-followers switching to (or starting with) CDs now because one of their idols does so? Who knows...

DJ_MuslimPirate · 08-15-2004, 07:51 PM

I reckon u cant get as much fun out of cd decks, vinyls are better bcoz theyer more versatile.

thethirdthing · 08-17-2004, 12:20 PM

Vinyl rules - but I'm an old timer.

CD's will be replaced by summit else and that will be replaced with summit after that.

Just buy wax - you know it makes sense!

tossit · 08-18-2004, 01:34 AM

So am I.

But still I think that vinyl will not be the only solution. I guess the future will be in a mix of the available technologies. How many people use both CD and vinyl, or use FinalScratch, a sampler, an effect-box etc...

08-11-2004, 09:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
yoko Bedroomer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14	That's a good question...I think it's part of the job as a DJ to be able to adjust to various players and mixers. OK if there is just a crappy beltdrive turntable then it sucks, but you still have to live with it. Unless, as you already said, you bring along your own stuff __________________ http://www.yoko-trance.de/files/yoko...edj_banner.jpg

08-11-2004, 10:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
wildbunch Bedroomer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3	I wonder what impact this will have on the vinyl vs cd discussion. Lots of "newbie"-followers switching to (or starting with) CDs now because one of their idols does so? Who knows... __________________ there I said it...

08-18-2004, 01:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
tossit Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 63	So am I. But still I think that vinyl will not be the only solution. I guess the future will be in a mix of the available technologies. How many people use both CD and vinyl, or use FinalScratch, a sampler, an effect-box etc... __________________ Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music.

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08-15-2004, 07:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
DJ_MuslimPirate Bedroomer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2	I reckon u cant get as much fun out of cd decks, vinyls are better bcoz theyer more versatile.

08-17-2004, 12:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
thethirdthing Bedroomer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 23	Vinyl rules - but I'm an old timer. CD's will be replaced by summit else and that will be replaced with summit after that. Just buy wax - you know it makes sense!