Pulsar DJ

> I convert my vinyl records into MP3 format using MusicMatch. However,
when
> I put a CD in my computer and convert a song to MP3 and play that, the
sound
> level or volume is OK. I mean: more or less the same as the original. Bbut
> when I convert a vinyl record into MP3 and play the MP3, the sound level
(or
> volume) is lower.

I assume that you record a cd by ripping it and record a vinyl by
play-and-record. If so, ripping sets the soundlevel automatic to the
standard, while the soundlevel of the play-and-record-methode depends on the
input-level. So make sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the
easiest to check on the mixer) is around 0 dB.

> Is there any way to avoid that? Would a digital sound card (with a coax or
> optical digital IN) solve my problem?

Yes, by making sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the easiest to
check on the mixer) is around 0 dB. No, a digital sound card will not solve
your problem. In this case you and only you are the one to blame! >:-]

grtz,
Pulsar

Nobody

"Pulsar DJ" <long email> wrote:

> I assume that you record a cd by ripping it and record a vinyl by
> play-and-record. If so, ripping sets the soundlevel automatic to the
> standard, while the soundlevel of the play-and-record-methode depends on
the
> input-level. So make sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the
> easiest to check on the mixer) is around 0 dB.

*** You're right: push the start button on the turntable and in MusicMatch
and pray to God all goes well! :-)
*** And I guess there's no way to rip vinyl?

> Yes, by making sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the easiest
to
> check on the mixer) is around 0 dB. No, a digital sound card will not
solve
> your problem. In this case you and only you are the one to blame! >:-]

*** Hmmm, I don't use a mixer. I go from turntable to amp to PC soundcard...
Maybe there's a better way to do this?

Nobody

"Pulsar DJ" <long email> wrote:

> I assume that you record a cd by ripping it and record a vinyl by
> play-and-record. If so, ripping sets the soundlevel automatic to the
> standard, while the soundlevel of the play-and-record-methode depends on
the
> input-level. So make sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the
> easiest to check on the mixer) is around 0 dB.

*** You're right: push the start button on the turntable and in MusicMatch
and pray to God all goes well! :-)
*** And I guess there's no way to rip vinyl?

> Yes, by making sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the easiest
to
> check on the mixer) is around 0 dB. No, a digital sound card will not
solve
> your problem. In this case you and only you are the one to blame! >:-]

*** Hmmm, I don't use a mixer. I go from turntable to amp to PC soundcard...
Maybe there's a better way to do this?

Pulsar DJ

> *** And I guess there's no way to rip vinyl?

That's a correct guess!

> > Yes, by making sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the easiest
> to
> > check on the mixer) is around 0 dB. No, a digital sound card will not
> solve
> > your problem. In this case you and only you are the one to blame! >:-]
> *** Hmmm, I don't use a mixer. I go from turntable to amp to PC
soundcard...
> Maybe there's a better way to do this?

Not a >better< way, but maybe one of this points will make it work:
- First, notice that a turntable does not work in a normal line-in of an
amplifier!
- Second, check if the record-settings are ok (especially the record-volume
of the PC line-in).
- If these are both ok, try to find a function in MusicMatch which indicates
the relative record-volume. I don't know MusicMatch at all, so I'm not sure
if it has the function, but if it has, the function will make it possible to
increase the volume of the amp untill you get a 0 dB record-level. If MM
doesn't have this function, try to get Cool Edit or some other prog that
has...
- Another option is to just set your amp a little louder and pray to God all
goes well
- The final option is to give the recorded music a boost after recording.
Every sound-prog has this volume-up function. This final option is not
without reason a final option: it creates a hell of a quality-loss...
- If there's still something wrong. Either your turntable, amp or soundcard
need to be fixed.

gtrz,
Pulsar

Pulsar DJ

> *** And I guess there's no way to rip vinyl?

That's a correct guess!

> > Yes, by making sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the easiest
> to
> > check on the mixer) is around 0 dB. No, a digital sound card will not
> solve
> > your problem. In this case you and only you are the one to blame! >:-]
> *** Hmmm, I don't use a mixer. I go from turntable to amp to PC
soundcard...
> Maybe there's a better way to do this?

Not a >better< way, but maybe one of this points will make it work:
- First, notice that a turntable does not work in a normal line-in of an
amplifier!
- Second, check if the record-settings are ok (especially the record-volume
of the PC line-in).
- If these are both ok, try to find a function in MusicMatch which indicates
the relative record-volume. I don't know MusicMatch at all, so I'm not sure
if it has the function, but if it has, the function will make it possible to
increase the volume of the amp untill you get a 0 dB record-level. If MM
doesn't have this function, try to get Cool Edit or some other prog that
has...
- Another option is to just set your amp a little louder and pray to God all
goes well
- The final option is to give the recorded music a boost after recording.
Every sound-prog has this volume-up function. This final option is not
without reason a final option: it creates a hell of a quality-loss...
- If there's still something wrong. Either your turntable, amp or soundcard
need to be fixed.

gtrz,
Pulsar

Nobody

Hmmm, interesting... Thanks a lot! But there's two connections from my
turntable (a red and white) and just one mic input... So just one of the
turntable's connections goes into the soundcard mic?

:-?


"d parker" wrote:
> Simple option. Get the amp out of the system for a start. Send the phono
> signal through the mic input on the sound card. Then set everything to
0db.

Nobody

Hmmm, interesting... Thanks a lot! But there's two connections from my
turntable (a red and white) and just one mic input... So just one of the
turntable's connections goes into the soundcard mic?

:-?


"d parker" wrote:
> Simple option. Get the amp out of the system for a start. Send the phono
> signal through the mic input on the sound card. Then set everything to
0db.

d parker

Nope. Get an RCA to 3.5mm splitter at your local electronics store. Hmm, now
I think of it though. The mic input will be mono, so this system will mean
you will lose the stereo effect.

DP
"Nobody" <no@s.p.a.m.com> wrote in message
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> Hmmm, interesting... Thanks a lot! But there's two connections from my
> turntable (a red and white) and just one mic input... So just one of the
> turntable's connections goes into the soundcard mic?
>
> :-?
>
>
> "d parker" wrote:
> > Simple option. Get the amp out of the system for a start. Send the phono
> > signal through the mic input on the sound card. Then set everything to
> 0db.
>
>
>

d parker

Nope. Get an RCA to 3.5mm splitter at your local electronics store. Hmm, now
I think of it though. The mic input will be mono, so this system will mean
you will lose the stereo effect.

DP
"Nobody" <no@s.p.a.m.com> wrote in message
news4fLa.3756$P26.5498@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> Hmmm, interesting... Thanks a lot! But there's two connections from my
> turntable (a red and white) and just one mic input... So just one of the
> turntable's connections goes into the soundcard mic?
>
> :-?
>
>
> "d parker" wrote:
> > Simple option. Get the amp out of the system for a start. Send the phono
> > signal through the mic input on the sound card. Then set everything to
> 0db.
>
>
>

Pulsar DJ

> Nope. Get an RCA to 3.5mm splitter at your local electronics store. Hmm,
now
> I think of it though. The mic input will be mono, so this system will mean
> you will lose the stereo effect.

And I think it's not going to work at all... I mean, as far as I know a mic
and a turntable are not 'coded' the same way. The lower frequencies in the
output of a turntable are being extremely increased in the amplifier, while
the output of a microphone is more equally increased. So I expect the sound
to be very loud and the lower frequencies to be missing.
But if I'm wrong, please let me know. It could be usefull to know that this
way works...

grtz,
Pulsar

Pulsar DJ

> Nope. Get an RCA to 3.5mm splitter at your local electronics store. Hmm,
now
> I think of it though. The mic input will be mono, so this system will mean
> you will lose the stereo effect.

And I think it's not going to work at all... I mean, as far as I know a mic
and a turntable are not 'coded' the same way. The lower frequencies in the
output of a turntable are being extremely increased in the amplifier, while
the output of a microphone is more equally increased. So I expect the sound
to be very loud and the lower frequencies to be missing.
But if I'm wrong, please let me know. It could be usefull to know that this
way works...

grtz,
Pulsar

DJ Pablo

Howdy
Here's how it's done and why.
1 : Output from turntable plugs into DJ Mixer or TT input of home stereo -
Mixer or stereo has RIAA equaliser/preamp
2 : Output of Mixer/Stereo into Line In socket of PC soundcard - Got to get
the sound into the computer. Use 2xRCA-1/8" Stereo jack plug
3 : Run sound recorder of your choice, check input levels and press record.
Righto
DJ Pablo - djpablonz@hotCOFFEEmail.com

"d parker" <daveparker@optusnet(nospam).com.au> wrote in message
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> Simple option. Get the amp out of the system for a start. Send the phono
> signal through the mic input on the sound card. Then set everything to
0db.
>
> DP
> "Pulsar DJ"
>
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>
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> TENWEGHALENente.nl> wrote in message
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> > > *** And I guess there's no way to rip vinyl?
> >
> > That's a correct guess!
> >
> > > > Yes, by making sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the
> easiest
> > > to
> > > > check on the mixer) is around 0 dB. No, a digital sound card will
not
> > > solve
> > > > your problem. In this case you and only you are the one to blame!
>:-]
> > > *** Hmmm, I don't use a mixer. I go from turntable to amp to PC
> > soundcard...
> > > Maybe there's a better way to do this?
> >
> > Not a >better< way, but maybe one of this points will make it work:
> > - First, notice that a turntable does not work in a normal line-in of an
> > amplifier!
> > - Second, check if the record-settings are ok (especially the
> record-volume
> > of the PC line-in).
> > - If these are both ok, try to find a function in MusicMatch which
> indicates
> > the relative record-volume. I don't know MusicMatch at all, so I'm not
> sure
> > if it has the function, but if it has, the function will make it
possible
> to
> > increase the volume of the amp untill you get a 0 dB record-level. If MM
> > doesn't have this function, try to get Cool Edit or some other prog that
> > has...
> > - Another option is to just set your amp a little louder and pray to God
> all
> > goes well
> > - The final option is to give the recorded music a boost after
recording.
> > Every sound-prog has this volume-up function. This final option is not
> > without reason a final option: it creates a hell of a quality-loss...
> > - If there's still something wrong. Either your turntable, amp or
> soundcard
> > need to be fixed.
> >
> > gtrz,
> > Pulsar
> >
> >
>
>

DJ Pablo

Howdy
Here's how it's done and why.
1 : Output from turntable plugs into DJ Mixer or TT input of home stereo -
Mixer or stereo has RIAA equaliser/preamp
2 : Output of Mixer/Stereo into Line In socket of PC soundcard - Got to get
the sound into the computer. Use 2xRCA-1/8" Stereo jack plug
3 : Run sound recorder of your choice, check input levels and press record.
Righto
DJ Pablo - djpablonz@hotCOFFEEmail.com

"d parker" <daveparker@optusnet(nospam).com.au> wrote in message
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> Simple option. Get the amp out of the system for a start. Send the phono
> signal through the mic input on the sound card. Then set everything to
0db.
>
> DP
> "Pulsar DJ"
>
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>
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>
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> TENWEGHALENente.nl> wrote in message
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> > > *** And I guess there's no way to rip vinyl?
> >
> > That's a correct guess!
> >
> > > > Yes, by making sure that the input-level of your vinyl (it's the
> easiest
> > > to
> > > > check on the mixer) is around 0 dB. No, a digital sound card will
not
> > > solve
> > > > your problem. In this case you and only you are the one to blame!
>:-]
> > > *** Hmmm, I don't use a mixer. I go from turntable to amp to PC
> > soundcard...
> > > Maybe there's a better way to do this?
> >
> > Not a >better< way, but maybe one of this points will make it work:
> > - First, notice that a turntable does not work in a normal line-in of an
> > amplifier!
> > - Second, check if the record-settings are ok (especially the
> record-volume
> > of the PC line-in).
> > - If these are both ok, try to find a function in MusicMatch which
> indicates
> > the relative record-volume. I don't know MusicMatch at all, so I'm not
> sure
> > if it has the function, but if it has, the function will make it
possible
> to
> > increase the volume of the amp untill you get a 0 dB record-level. If MM
> > doesn't have this function, try to get Cool Edit or some other prog that
> > has...
> > - Another option is to just set your amp a little louder and pray to God
> all
> > goes well
> > - The final option is to give the recorded music a boost after
recording.
> > Every sound-prog has this volume-up function. This final option is not
> > without reason a final option: it creates a hell of a quality-loss...
> > - If there's still something wrong. Either your turntable, amp or
> soundcard
> > need to be fixed.
> >
> > gtrz,
> > Pulsar
> >
> >
>
>

Nobody

You're not wrong, it doesn't work at all..........

;-)



"Pulsar DJ" wrote:
But if I'm wrong, please let me know. It could be usefull to know that this
way works...

Nobody

You're not wrong, it doesn't work at all..........

;-)



"Pulsar DJ" wrote:
But if I'm wrong, please let me know. It could be usefull to know that this
way works...