Fred X

Hi,
can anybody recommend a usb soundcard that I could use with an external
mixer?
I use Atomix Virtual DJ for playing my tunes so I need something with 2
stereo outs (one for each deck) A low latency would be nice too for writing
my own stuff in Cubase

cheers
Fred

Smooth

Get some decks man whats goin on, why are ppl wimpin out and running
to software
anyways get the creative audigy EXTERNAL soundcard if u can afford it

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:30:39 +0100, "Fred X" <LeeJulia1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Hi,
>can anybody recommend a usb soundcard that I could use with an external
>mixer?
>I use Atomix Virtual DJ for playing my tunes so I need something with 2
>stereo outs (one for each deck) A low latency would be nice too for writing
>my own stuff in Cubase
>
>cheers
>Fred
>
>
>

Gorecki

Yeah because the Extigy (get it right) is *so* expensive. DJing was about
the music last time I looked, must of the compilations out there are mixed
digitally, would you say that Sasha is wimping out and running to software?
If the end result is of quality, why should anyone care how it's made?
Look for M-Audio kit, FireWire if you've got it on your system
If you're running a laptop have a look at the Echo Indigo DJ, should suit
your needs perfectly.

"Smooth" <user@domain.com> wrote in message
news:mtd9d09v6atrjsqcec6n8n7v3pqko74nnm@4ax.com...
> Get some decks man whats goin on, why are ppl wimpin out and running
> to software
> anyways get the creative audigy EXTERNAL soundcard if u can afford it
>
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:30:39 +0100, "Fred X" <LeeJulia1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >can anybody recommend a usb soundcard that I could use with an external
> >mixer?
> >I use Atomix Virtual DJ for playing my tunes so I need something with 2
> >stereo outs (one for each deck) A low latency would be nice too for
writing
> >my own stuff in Cubase
> >
> >cheers
> >Fred
> >
> >
> >
>

Smooth

So your tellin me it dont matter how its done? What if he is stealin
some ones mixxes and playin them, and sayin they are his? what if it
was ur mix and you found out? what then?

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:51:07 GMT, "Gorecki" <gorecki@someplace.com>
wrote:

>Yeah because the Extigy (get it right) is *so* expensive. DJing was about
>the music last time I looked, must of the compilations out there are mixed
>digitally, would you say that Sasha is wimping out and running to software?
>If the end result is of quality, why should anyone care how it's made?
>Look for M-Audio kit, FireWire if you've got it on your system
>If you're running a laptop have a look at the Echo Indigo DJ, should suit
>your needs perfectly.
>
>"Smooth" <user@domain.com> wrote in message
>news:mtd9d09v6atrjsqcec6n8n7v3pqko74nnm@4ax.com.. .
>> Get some decks man whats goin on, why are ppl wimpin out and running
>> to software
>> anyways get the creative audigy EXTERNAL soundcard if u can afford it
>>
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:30:39 +0100, "Fred X" <LeeJulia1@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >can anybody recommend a usb soundcard that I could use with an external
>> >mixer?
>> >I use Atomix Virtual DJ for playing my tunes so I need something with 2
>> >stereo outs (one for each deck) A low latency would be nice too for
>writing
>> >my own stuff in Cubase
>> >
>> >cheers
>> >Fred
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Gorecki

Stealing someone else's mixes is a different issue, and the only thing I'm
going to say about that is that I can't and won't defend anyone who does so.
What I'm saying is that is doesn't matter what equipment someone uses to put
a mix together. You can use tape for all I care (though you'd get enough of
my respect if you managed to make it sound good), but the end result is what
matters. Stealing mixes is a completely different issue, a contrieved
example you bring to undermine my argument.
You can use decks to mix. It takes skill to make it sound good. You can use
MP3s, and admittedly you can cheat with software. Regardless, if the DJ
wants to, they can make things difficult for themselves and be more creative
than the relatively simple capabilities in software. It takes skill. Any
medium takes an associated amount of skill to produce an end product of
quality, just that each medium, together with its own particular
characteristics with regards creative potential and inbuilt DJ features,
*may* require more or less skill to master than another.
Justin.


"Smooth" <user@domain.com> wrote in message
news:481fd0lsqcosbg6h20q2i0mco75av4arv1@4ax.com...
> So your tellin me it dont matter how its done? What if he is stealin
> some ones mixxes and playin them, and sayin they are his? what if it
> was ur mix and you found out? what then?
>
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:51:07 GMT, "Gorecki" <gorecki@someplace.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Yeah because the Extigy (get it right) is *so* expensive. DJing was about
> >the music last time I looked, must of the compilations out there are
mixed
> >digitally, would you say that Sasha is wimping out and running to
software?
> >If the end result is of quality, why should anyone care how it's made?
> >Look for M-Audio kit, FireWire if you've got it on your system
> >If you're running a laptop have a look at the Echo Indigo DJ, should suit
> >your needs perfectly.

Fred X

"Smooth" <user@domain.com> wrote in message
news:481fd0lsqcosbg6h20q2i0mco75av4arv1@4ax.com...
> So your tellin me it dont matter how its done? What if he is stealin
> some ones mixxes and playin them, and sayin they are his? what if it
> was ur mix and you found out? what then?
>
I wouldn't be stealing anyones mixes and trying to pass them off as my own
as I agree that would be wrong and I wouldn't be having any creative input
into the set. I don't get this argument about decks being better than using
a software based system though, surely the mix itself is the important thing
and not the media it comes from? A lot dance music is produced using a
software enviroment (Reason, Fruity Loops et al) so a PC based system makes
more sense to me as I would be able to drop my own tunes in there

cheers
Fred

dj

I agree that there are several types of DJ's out there and I respect most of
them.


Turntable DJ's - Some want the recognition of the Coolness and some can
actually mix. Unless you can Scratch and Backspin whats the point in TT's
now? and Scratching is kinda 80ish.
Software DJ's - Most have gone mobile finding it a bit smarter than carrying
CD's and Records for some moron to turn around and steel them.
Software DJ's - I use BPM Studio with a Remote Control, unless you've used
it you obviously don't know it's capabilities. I can mix as good if not
better than a Turntable DJ. I made my own backspins and recorded them in the
Samples Table, Right click the Play button and it does the same thing as
hitting STOP on a Technics 1200 which is what cool DJ's used to do using 2
or 3 of the same 12" mix using Dub, Vocal and Accapella variations.
Turntable vs MP3 Software mixing - Unless you use 12" mixes it's almost
pointless not quite but almost. Unless you bring Dubs, Scratches and Beats
it's pointless. I could do the same thing with a Denon Dual Cd Deck, Except
Backspin and Scratch

Then there is Rap Mixing DJ's and Club Beat Mixing DJ's which is probably
what this is all about.
2 totally different styles. but I've heard some kickass rap mixes without
anything but pure style.

If I went to a Club and the Music and Mix Sucked Ass I would'nt look up and
go "Oh Wow He's using Turntables" then go "Aahhh! I feel better now"
I'd still say He Sucked Ass and probably leave since there are 20 bars
within 3 blocks better DJ's ( Im in D.C.).
If he was using Software and played great I probably would never notice nor
give a shit because I would be too busy enjoying myself and the same if he
were using Turntables and playing good shit I would probably never notice
and again don't care what he uses to mix with.
It's all in the way it's presented.
Presentation is everything and you will soon learn that.
Present the music well and you represent yourself and mixes well and earn
your name.
Present good music and mix it like shit and your nobody but a bad DJ, and no
matter what equipment you use you'll still be a shit DJ.

And probably be named DJ PooPoo or something...............

My 2 cents and not directed at anyone in particular
now for the funny part

One sunny day in 2005 an old man approached the White House from
across Pennsylvania Ave, where he'd been sitting on a park bench. He spoke
to the US Marine standing guard and said, "I would like to go in and meet
with President Bush."

The Marine looked at the man and said, "Sir, Mr. Bush is no longer
president and no longer resides here."
The old man said, "Okay" and walked away.

The following day, the same man approached the White House and said
to the same Marine, "I would like to go in and meet with President Bush."
The Marine again told the man, "Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Bush is no
longer president and no longer resides here."
The man thanked him and, again, just walked away.

The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to
the very same US Marine, saying "I would like to go in and meet with
President Bush."

The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man
and said, "Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to
speak to Mr. Bush. I've told you already that Mr. Bush is no longer the
president and no longer resides here. Don't you understand?"

The old man looked at the Marine and said, "Oh, I understand. I just
love hearing it." The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, "See
you tomorrow, Sir."

MAKE IT HAPPEN - VOTE (and get others to vote, too!)


"Gorecki" <gorecki@someplace.com> wrote in message
news:bc4a2eaa6e9c74ad2964f2b847833720@news.teranew s.com...
> Stealing someone else's mixes is a different issue, and the only thing I'm
> going to say about that is that I can't and won't defend anyone who does
> so.
> What I'm saying is that is doesn't matter what equipment someone uses to
> put
> a mix together. You can use tape for all I care (though you'd get enough
> of
> my respect if you managed to make it sound good), but the end result is
> what
> matters. Stealing mixes is a completely different issue, a contrieved
> example you bring to undermine my argument.
> You can use decks to mix. It takes skill to make it sound good. You can
> use
> MP3s, and admittedly you can cheat with software. Regardless, if the DJ
> wants to, they can make things difficult for themselves and be more
> creative
> than the relatively simple capabilities in software. It takes skill. Any
> medium takes an associated amount of skill to produce an end product of
> quality, just that each medium, together with its own particular
> characteristics with regards creative potential and inbuilt DJ features,
> *may* require more or less skill to master than another.
> Justin.
>
>
> "Smooth" <user@domain.com> wrote in message
> news:481fd0lsqcosbg6h20q2i0mco75av4arv1@4ax.com...
>> So your tellin me it dont matter how its done? What if he is stealin
>> some ones mixxes and playin them, and sayin they are his? what if it
>> was ur mix and you found out? what then?
>>
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:51:07 GMT, "Gorecki" <gorecki@someplace.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Yeah because the Extigy (get it right) is *so* expensive. DJing was
>> >about
>> >the music last time I looked, must of the compilations out there are
> mixed
>> >digitally, would you say that Sasha is wimping out and running to
> software?
>> >If the end result is of quality, why should anyone care how it's made?
>> >Look for M-Audio kit, FireWire if you've got it on your system
>> >If you're running a laptop have a look at the Echo Indigo DJ, should
>> >suit
>> >your needs perfectly.
>
>