sjw

Hello!

Ok with the DJ equip set up.... I know I need turntables, mixer, amp and
speakers etc but where does the sub fit into all this? There's no point in
music if there's no heavy bass in it.

Can anyone please help?
Ruthy ;p

c.reifert

"sjw" <sarawar@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hello!
>
> Ok with the DJ equip set up.... I know I need turntables, mixer, amp and
> speakers etc but where does the sub fit into all this? There's no point in
> music if there's no heavy bass in it.
>
> Can anyone please help?
> Ruthy ;p
>

Ruthy,
there's many ways to hook them up (which I'm sure you'll see when others
start answering), but all I can do is tell you the way I have mine:

I use 2 - Peavey PV2600 amps (I also have a 3rd as a spare). One takes the
output from my mixer, and feeds out to my subs. On that same amp, there are
two 1/4-inch High Z outputs that feed out to the input of my other mixer,
which then feed my normal speakers. With the crossover enabled on the first
amp, only the lows feed into the subs. Using the High Z outputs to the
second amp, the speakers get everything BUT the lows. If you had lows going
to both the speakers and subs, IMHO it sounds like crap.

Hope that helps,
Will

c.reifert

"c.reifert" <c.reifert@removethis.mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> "sjw" <sarawar@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:lDXxc.825$sj4.176@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > Ok with the DJ equip set up.... I know I need turntables, mixer, amp and
> > speakers etc but where does the sub fit into all this? There's no point
in
> > music if there's no heavy bass in it.
> >
> > Can anyone please help?
> > Ruthy ;p
> >
>
> Ruthy,
> there's many ways to hook them up (which I'm sure you'll see when
others
> start answering), but all I can do is tell you the way I have mine:
>
> I use 2 - Peavey PV2600 amps (I also have a 3rd as a spare). One takes
the
> output from my mixer, and feeds out to my subs. On that same amp, there
are
> two 1/4-inch High Z outputs that feed out to the input of my other mixer,
> which then feed my normal speakers. With the crossover enabled on the
first
> amp, only the lows feed into the subs. Using the High Z outputs to the
> second amp, the speakers get everything BUT the lows. If you had lows
going
> to both the speakers and subs, IMHO it sounds like crap.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Will
>

Let me try this again, since I used the word mixer when I meant amp. Sorry
about that.

Ruthy,
there's many ways to hook them up (which I'm sure you'll see when others
start answering), but all I can do is tell you the way I have mine:

I use 2 - Peavey PV2600 amps (I also have a 3rd as a spare). One takes the
output from my mixer, and feeds out to my subs. On that same amp, there
are
two 1/4-inch High Z outputs that feed out to the input of my other amp,
which then feed my normal speakers. With the crossover enabled on the
first
amp, only the lows feed into the subs. Using the High Z outputs to the
second amp, the speakers get everything BUT the lows. If you had lows
going
to both the speakers and subs, IMHO it sounds like crap.

Hope that helps,
Will

d parker

For many small gigs/parties you don't need a sub. Full range speakers will
give you enough for the room and small crowd.

As the crowd increases they start absorbing bass faster than top end. So
this is where the sub/s really helps out. Of course you are charging more
now! That's a generalisation of the practicabilities of the industry. Not
true audiophile however.

If you wanted pure sound you wouldn't be using PA speakers- you would use
Studio Monitors. But they wont handle the harsh environment of clubs, truck,
smoke and drunk DJ's.

Once we start talking about club systems and larger productions we have
several choices of Sub-Systems. Powered/ Non-powered Subs with Passive or
Active Crossover Systems.

Powered Subs have built in amps.. While Non powered subs rely on a separate
amplification.

Active Crossovers are usually rack mounted units that allow tweaking of the
system and are powered by house mains.
Passive crossovers are merely a circuit board that separates the two
frequencies (highs-Lows).

After all that waffle. Don't rush out and buy a sub. Do a few small parties
to get started and see what happens from there. However, when it comes to
finally buying one, I would not recommend anything under 400 watts RMS. You
need substantionally more power to develop good bottom end compared with
minimal for good highs.

Dave Parker
Pro Beat Entertainment
www.probeatentertainment.com
"sjw" <sarawar@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hello!
>
> Ok with the DJ equip set up.... I know I need turntables, mixer, amp and
> speakers etc but where does the sub fit into all this? There's no point in
> music if there's no heavy bass in it.
>
> Can anyone please help?
> Ruthy ;p
>
>

sjw

Thanks heaps guys!!

Ruthy ;p

dj

You don't need a sub with Mackie SRM450's

"sjw" <sarawar@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hello!
>
> Ok with the DJ equip set up.... I know I need turntables, mixer, amp and
> speakers etc but where does the sub fit into all this? There's no point in
> music if there's no heavy bass in it.
>
> Can anyone please help?
> Ruthy ;p
>
>

Dan Gruner

"dj" <cnewman65@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> You don't need a sub with Mackie SRM450's
>
> "sjw" <sarawar@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > Ok with the DJ equip set up.... I know I need turntables, mixer, amp and
> > speakers etc but where does the sub fit into all this? There's no point
in
> > music if there's no heavy bass in it.
> >
> > Can anyone please help?
> > Ruthy ;p
> >
> >
>
>
"You don't need a sub with Mackie SRM450's" - you do if you want a fat low
end!

Dan

Ben

dj wrote:
> You don't need a sub with Mackie SRM450's
>

Sorry I am a bit late catching up with this thread! Ruthie, this is
NOT true that you don't need a sub with Mackie SRM450's. They actually
are not that great as far as bass goes. They'll work fine if you are
playing popular music in a bar or at a wedding but are less than
adequate for the kind of music you want to play. Oh sure they will
work, but you won't be thrilled with the sound. I have played serious
dance music on a pair of SRM450's, it was weak. Actually I don't really
love the sound of them at all.

But right now at your stage of the game you don't need to worry about
big subs, amps, crossover, etc. These things are used when you bring
your equipment out to throw parties etc. Then depending on what you
want to do you can choose the size and type of speakers, amps etc.
You're still just learning. Your first step is to play at home and
learn to beatmatch and put a set together. Then, maybe you'll have some
friends who are throwing parties or doing nights at small clubs let you
play. For that, all you will need to bring usually are your records,
headphones, and sometimes cartridges from your turntables. Maybe at
some time you will want to bring your own turntables or mixer (eg
turntables/mixer in the club are crap). Then finally when you get some
experience you might want to own your own complete sound system.

For now your most important purchases are your decks (turntables or cd
players), mixer, and heaphones.. and cables to connect it all together.
Yes, you will need speakers and an amp to play through at home. If
you have a good home stereo that has good bass you can feel at least a
little (that is, not some crappy home theatre system), you can play
through that. That's what I do at home, I have a fairly expensive
system I bought a long time ago and it still sounds really good. I have
a bigger sound system but it's not used at home, only for real parties.
If your stereo at home isn't powerful or lacks bass (or you just don't
have one), your next best option is to invest in a pair of powered
monitor speakers. For example the Fostex PM-2's are not bad at
$500/pair including the amps (the amps are built in). They are a bit
bigger than most powered monitors so you will get decent bass without a
sub. You can add a cheap home-stereo sub later if you want it. You
will never be sorry that you have good sounding monitor speakers waiting
for you to play when you get home...

-Ben